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Ask you, julia. the charging document talks about the role of butina's boyfriend, republican political operative paul eriksson and the advice he gave for her along the way in her plan. talk about his culpability, if any, he's in trouble. >> i don't know, i don't know if he's in trouble, but it certainly seems like he would be. like, he provided a lot of material, helped to butina along the way. like garrett said, stumbling head first down the treasonous path. he was providing her, again, according to the charging document, he was providing her with backgrounders on all of the morn officials wh...

Warning. >> i told them if russia had such a campaign under way, it would be certain to backfire. i said all americans cherish their ability to elect their own leaders. >> reporter: brennan led the cia until the final stay of the obama administration. >> by the time i left office, i had questions in my mind whether or not the russians had been successful in getting u.s. persons involved in the campaign or not, to work in their behalf in a witting or unwitting fashion. >> individual whose go along a treasonous path, sometimes do not realize they're along that path until it gets onto too late. >...

Investigation is at this time, and the fact that it has to go forward. >> were you surprised to hear the former director of the cia utter the word "treasonous" in public session regarding russian interference? >> i've heard various choices now what kind of offenses we could conceivably talking about. acting as an agent of a foreign power, today treason. what i tell folks is, even if there was no crime, the fact that agents of a major political party were cooperating potentially cooperating with the russians, our enemy for all of our lifetimes, is as big of news as they would have gotten. >> yo...

Good process to go forward with. i'm not an expert on what the nuances that have are. >> let me also get your reaction to the former cia director john brennan telling the senate intelligence committee that russia may have led u.s. persons down what he called a treasonous path, perhaps even unwittingly. based on what you know about russian intelligence services, in your sense is that a plausible scenario? >> it's very plausible. i think, look, when russians recruit, and this is just kind of spycraft, you try to gain somebody's trust and try though have interaction with them and try to have a re...

People, including inside of cia, to become treasonous and frequently individuals who go along a treasonous path do not realize they're along that path until it gets to be a bit too late. >> jeremy bash, when that testimony was delivered, do you believe that john brennan had in his mind that there was an individual or individuals on the trump campaign or trump team who had been on a treasonous path. >> well, i think it's clear once mike flynn lied to the fbi about his communications with the russians that at least mike flynn was, at the very leefast, unwitting. and the question bob mueller will...