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Moisture into those large fields. that takes a long time for that to occur. so those large fuels, the big tree, we've had a lot of tree mortality. then you throw on the beetles. we have a lot of death growth of trees and it creates a tinder box for fire. >> and with all that you just said, let's get back to the people that live that that are going through this. do you think people are thinking now of the climate and warming and that this is a new normal for them? >> people who are directly impacted by these fires tend to remember it. but even in 2017 when san francisco broke its all time high ...