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Significant thing during the public hearing he said in essence the time for deals has passed. what i read from that was he, we gave you every opportunity to settle this in a dignified manner and walk away with your dignity intact. you have refused and so we are going to got, we've all agreed republicans and democrats, we are going to the trial phase and not cutting some special deal. >> greta: it is going to be ugly. even the insiders are running as outsiders. how come people who work here for years are still outsiders? >> every election gets consumed by a theme, the theme this year is insider...

Public hearing he said in essence the time for deals has passed. what i read from that was he, we gave you every opportunity to settle this in a dignified manner and walk away with your dignity intact. you have refused and so we are going to got, we've all agreed republicans and democrats, we are going to the trial phase and not cutting some special deal. >> greta: it is going to be ugly. even the insiders are running as outsiders. how come people who work here for years are still outsiders? >> every election gets consumed by a theme, the theme this year is insider versus outsider. in 2006 the...

You don't particularly in the senate have any motivation to try to work on legislative solutions. >> i have to do two things. congressman pence, the issue of charlie rangel, there does not appear to be a deal moving forward. there are some reports that some republicans want an ethics trials. what's your view on him stepping down and pursue a trial? >> if the allegations are true, he should step down from congress. only charlie rangel knows if that's the case. we're in the trial phase right now. the opportunity for a settlement when two republicans and two democrats on the subcommittee were exa...

Settlement between rangel's lawyers and the committee. a republican on the ethics committee said the time for deals is over and we're now in the trial phase. and as we have a chance to really look at these details, it is a very tough picture for charlie rangel. chuck, savannah? >> all right. kelly o'donnell, i got whiplash yesterday. going to be an interesting weekend. okay. thanks very much. in arizona, governor jan brewer has appealed a federal judge's decision to stop the controversial law in the tracks so with us now justice correspondent pete williams. walk us through the process, thoug...

Statement. thank you. >> that was charlie rangel of new york. the former chairman of the house, ways and means committee now faces the prospect of congressional ethics trial despite efforts to negotiate some kind of deal. >> rangel's attorneys have been meeting with ethics committee staff about a possible deal to avoid a full ethics trial. >> we know that there have been talks between charlie rangel's lawyers and lawyers for the committee. >> lawyers for rangel have been trying to cut a deal with congressional investigators but time is running out. >> time ran out. this afternoon, the house et...