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The issue of charlie rangel, there does not appear to be a deal moving forward. there are report that is some republicans want an ethics trials. what's your view on him stepping down? >> if the allegations are true, he should step down from congress. only xharly rangel knows if that's the case. we're in the trial phase ritd now. the opportunity for a settlement when two republicans and two democrats on the subcommittee were examining these charges has gone by the boards. i really do believe that we ought to let charlie rangel have his day in court and let the process work. >> harold, there's a...

The issue of charlie rangel, there does not appear to be a deal moving forward. there are report that is some republicans want an ethics trials. what's your view on him stepping down? >> if the allegations are true, he should step down from congress. only xharly rangel knows if that's the case. we're in the trial phase ritd now. the opportunity for a settlement when two republicans and two democrats on the subcommittee were examining these charges has gone by the boards. i really do believe that we ought to let charlie rangel have his day in court and let the process work. >> harold, there's a...

You don't particularly in the senate have any motivation to try to work on legislative solutions. >> i have to do two things. congressman pence, the issue of charlie rangel, there does not appear to be a deal moving forward. there are some reports that some republicans want an ethics trials. what's your view on him stepping down and pursue a trial? >> if the allegations are true, he should step down from congress. only charlie rangel knows if that's the case. we're in the trial phase right now. the opportunity for a settlement when two republicans and two democrats on the subcommittee were exa...

Prominent democrat, she's been in congress about 20 years, she's a senior member of the very powerful house financial services committee, that is the committee that wrote much of the wall street reform bill that just passed, and waters is also a prominent number of the congressional black caucus. you're seeing here a defiant maxine waters saying, no, i won accept this punishment being handed down to me without a trial process. >> the house democrats are trying to come on to the majority come mid-term elections, and at the same time now they have two prominent members of their party facing ethi...

Wanted ethics trials, do you think this could be a tipping point much like mark foley in 2006? i remember when foley had his problems with everything that had gone wrong, iraq, katrina, economy, efg, the deficit. most republicans said, okay, that's it, that puts the bow on it, republicans are going to lose. could we be looking at that with all of these ethics charges coming out now against democrats? >> i think it's, obviously, going to be damaging to the democrats, joe, but i don't think it's going to approach the foley tsunami, because mark foley's thing was largely covered as if it was all ...