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That's the best we can help you. >> obviously that was not the intention, nor has it been my suggestion throughout the course since these shootings. what i talked about are broader things like mentoring. >> i hear you on that. they are part of the equation. they are just not a main variable. >> i disagree, chris. they are the biggest. if you look at the organizations that have come up from columbine, sandy is hook, they have been effective. they have actually saved lives. and if you look at the facts -- >> you're missing the point, rick. you just are. guns matter. access to the weapons matters...

Jong-un. we discuss all of it next. termites. we're on the move. hey rick, all good? oh yeah, we're good. we're good. terminix. defenders of home.

Republican bill no matter what. there are only 23 house members, republican house members, in districts that hillary clinton won. their majority is over 40. they do not have to worry about this. they have to pass this bill and go for re-election and won't affect voters by 2018. >> david and howard and then christina. >> trump doesn't really understand policy. i think we can all agree on th. he did claim during the campaign and since that thi -- his plan would create more choice, lower cost, better coverage, and give everybody a rainbow colored flying unicorn. >> sounds great. >> sounds great. ...

Americans, keep the rise in premiums from what they otherwise would have been. do things like have pre -- the provisions on pre-existing conditions, the out-of-pocket expenditures, limits on lifetime coverage. all those kind of things if the republicans can square the circle on that. of course, democrats want to participate. the fact of the matter is, as you just pointed out, you can't do this without the mandate. if you take away the mandate, what you do is shift all the risk pools to the high-risk individuals. at that point, premiums skyrocket. nobody will be able to afford health insurance ...

And of course the whole idea of rick perry brings us to the republican field for whom this new national poll out tonight from ppp is absolutely terrible and may be even devastating news. let's look at the bottom tier of this poll. look at the people who are getting 2% or less. tied for tenth place at 2% of the vote right now are rick s santor santorum, which is where you would expect him to be. but who is rick santorum tied with? chris christie. chris christie was supposed to be a top tier national contender, right? chris christie tied with rick santorum for tenth place and 2% of the vote nati...