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>> there is lots of trick triggers and cravings and all sorts of things. that's the nature of this illness. >> bill: we will get back to how you kicked it in a moment. you, mr. kennedy, were in the house, you know, high pressure job. everybody is looking at you but you are bombed half the time, right? >> i had a lot of problems managing my life. and, of course, if you are an addict you manage your life by consuming drugs and alcohol to help you manage the stress. >> bill: was this trying to deaden some pain or something in you? >> no. i mean these are -- you have a physical compulsion an aller...

>> bill: cirrhosis? >> why did it take you so long to get off the stuff? >> it's that difficult a thing. evidence shows the earlier you intervene in someone's life the better chance of changing trajectory. it's important that parents intervene early in their parent's life if there is a genetic predisposition. >> bill: can you think back on a time where you said, look, i don't want to do this anymore? this is is wrecking my body? >> absolutely. >> bill: mr. lawford goes through it in the book it wrecks his body. it wrecks his social relationships with people. >> i was fairly functional, bill. i...

>> there is lots of trick triggers and cravings and all sorts of things. that's the nature of this illness. >> bill: we will get back to how you kicked it in a moment. you, mr. kennedy, were in the house, you know, high pressure job. everybody is looking at you but you are bombed half the time, right? >> i had a lot of problems managing my life. and, of course, if you are an addict you manage your life by consuming drugs and alcohol to help you manage the stress. >> bill: was this trying to deaden some pain or something in you? >> no. i mean these are -- you have a physical compulsion an aller...