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Put the money back in american wallets. not in the cesspool of waste called the federal government right now. it's going to flush it down the toilet bowl. brian: find a way with the parliamentarian approving. if you want to have an automatic trigger. make automatic trigger cuts to programs and spending. they do it with sequester. they did it with all these -- with what happened to the defense department over the last few years. why can't it go across the board spending cuts? >> and, brian, that's a great points. i heard you bring up the dynamic scoring before. you want a trigger? i have a trig...

Prospect of trigger cuts, if they didn't adopt proposition 30 if they raise taxes. they decided to go for the tax increases and that's because they saw what that austerity could mean. you really have to do both. we talk about the investments and the costs. >> please. >> i was going to say, the federal level, one of the things we saw in 2000, i know you want to keep taxes and spending separate, but i think we shouldn't. what we have seen is a great pitch to reduce taxes. again, i'm in favor of it. the route to great economic growth. that being said, it is not true, even with the best tax cuts w...

Legislature assumes it has $8 billion it may not have? >> right. they agree on that. they have built in a series of trigger cuts into the budget, so if the taxes are rejeked in november, there will be $6 billion of cuts, most of those to public schools and community colleges, another half million from the university. and so this budget is really setting the stage for that november election. the democrat and it is governor want to present this as a choice that the voters have between schools and taxes. taxes are not popular. schools are. so voters are going to have a tough decision to make, if ...

Legislature assumes it has $8 billion it may not have? >> right. they agree on that. they have built in a series of trigger cuts into the budget, so if the taxes are rejeked in november, there will be $6 billion of cuts, most of those to public schools and community colleges, another half million from the university. and so this budget is really setting the stage for that november election. the democrat and it is governor want to present this as a choice that the voters have between schools and taxes. taxes are not popular. schools are. so voters are going to have a tough decision to make, if ...

Tax and get the people over $250,000. but how popular is this with the voters? >> reporter: not very. early polls show that the voters are split. i mean, it's polling at 50-51%. typical in california, if you want a ballot measure to pass, you need to poll in the high 50s to low 60s. clearly, there is no guarantee that he will be successful in the fall. so, you know, as democrats and the governr governor work together to stitch together the budget, they have to be thinking about what to do that indicates that the voters reject the taxes. >> reporter: what is the plan? if he doesn't get the $6 b...