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Assault weapons ban? joining me is paul hemky former president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence and eugene robinson. how far do you see how far vice president task force will go and how far the president will go? >> i doubt they will go as far as i would like. i think they should deal with a comprehensive plan, deal with background checks and deal with military-style weapons and deal with trafficking and deal with special protections the gun industry gets now and put all those trigger locks and all those things in a comprehensive bill. tough to get through. the problem with doing ...

Joining me is paul helmke, former president of the brady campaign to prevent gun violence, and eugene robinson, of course, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "the washington post" and an msnbc contributor. paul, you devote your time and life to this story. which way do you see it going in terms of how far the vice president's task force will go next tuesday and then how far the president will go and then how far the congress will go in terms of gun control and gun safety? >> i doubt if they're going to go as far as i'd like. i personally think they should present a comprehensive plan, deal w...

The old trigger locks. put them all into a comprehensive bill. it's going to be tough to get through. the problem with doing it single bill by single bill, people say this wouldn't have stopped this shooting or that shooting. do a comprehensive bill. if you have to negotiate to keep the high capacity ammunition magazines and give up some of the military-style weapons, then you have trade-offs you can make, but put everything on the table. i think biden needs to -- vice president biden needs to do that. i think the president needs to do the same thing. the nra and their folks are going to fight...

Gets. the old trigger locks. put them all into a comprehensive bill. it's going to be tough to get through. the problem with doing it single bill by single bill, people say this wouldn't have stopped this shooting or that shooting. do a comprehensive bill. if you have to negotiate to keep the high capacity ammunition magazines and give up some of the military-style weapons, then you have trade-offs you can make, but put everything on the table. i think biden needs to -- vice president biden needs to do that. i think the president needs to do the same thing. the nra and their folks are going to...

Shouldn't have their hands on a gun if you close the gun show loophole and i also voted for a lock to be sold with guns so that you have a trigger lock, $5 you can have a trigger lock and that actually might have prevented this if the mother had had trigger locks on the guns. >> chris: we got about a minute left. >> she would have been able to perhaps prevent this. >> what do you think of wayne lapierre's offer? >> it is pretty empty. that is the only answer is to put more guns in schools? look, we already have armed officers in many schools in washington, d.c. we have armed officers in school...