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Literally thousands of children who grow up exposed to these kinds of problems. >> and worse. >> and worse. and yet they don't go on to do the kinds of things that jeff did. >> in and of themselves, they're not the -- i guess we would say not the only factors. but you know, everyone's an individual, i guess, aren't they? but there may have been more important, unknown to us yet, trigger points that make jeff more unique than the usual case. >> when you think back on those times, the arguments and the possible effect it may have had on the kids, is it, is it -- it may cause you anguish? >> it m...

Might have been one of the trigger points. i mean, you know the old freudian castration complex might come to bear here. and i guess psychoanalysts would be -- would really have a heyday with this because you know he was concerned about losing his penis. he asked his mother if he had lost it, if it had been cut off. now -- >> something he later did do to his, or at least to some of his victims. >> that's true, yes. >> one thing that many serial killers have in common is a history of sexual abuse. was jeff sexually abused at any time? >> no, never. >> was not abused by anyone in the home? >> no...

>> there are thousands, literally thousands of children who grow up exposed to these kinds of problems. >> and worse. >> and worse. and yet they don't go on to do the kinds of things that jeff did. >> in and of themselves, they're not the -- i guess we would say not the only factors. but you know, everyone's an individual, i guess, aren't they? but there may have been more important, unknown to us yet, trigger points that make jeff more unique than the usual case. >> when you think back on those times, the arguments and the possible effect it may have had on the kids, is it, is it -- it may ca...

>> and worse. and yet they don't go on to do the kinds of things that jeff did. >> in and of themselves, they're not the -- i guess we would say not the only factors. but you know, everyone's an individual, i guess, aren't they? but there may have been more important, unknown to us yet, trigger points that make jeff more unique than the usual case. >> when you think back on those times, the arguments and the possible effect it may have had on the kids, is it, is it -- it may cause you anguish? >> it makes me sick that we didn't have a more ozzie and harriet-type family. and i know there really...

Executive order gave the nsa the ability to find information, retain it and disseminate it based upon approval looking for e-mails and phone messages that have trigger points. >> so if your -- you are saying you could be an average american exchanging e-mails with whoever and it turns out if you have certain key words or phrases you will get the attention of the nsa? >>guest: it is very important to thank the men and women out there that are working hard and collaborating across the agencies who are there protecting us and working hard to do so but it is up, the buck stops at the attorney gene...