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Thing and effectively because more people are killed with hands and face every year than they are by rifles, you can't really justify taking away people's second amendment if it doesn't add up with the data. >> harris: real quickly, and i'll come to you in just a second. i want to press and a little bit on the ar-15. i know you know a lot about it. from what i understand some of this is a gun not only owned by a lot of people but there's a reason for that. it mimics military type weapon although to my knowledge, the military doesn't use is gone but has that look. it's got a very short recoil s...

[ gunshot ] [ screaming ] >> god help us. i don't know what to say. >> it must have felt like an eternity for those kids. >> hear bullets go over my head, three seconds feels like 30 seconds. and these are teenagers. it sends chills down my spine just watching the video. i can't imagine the level of fear these kids were enduring. >> the only time i heard gunfire like that was in iraq or afghanistan. >> absolutely. think about the video. again, builds the profile. this wasn't a spray and pray where he walked into the area and fired an entire magazine. this was a single trigger pull.

The trigger pull is central to this killing. the judge denied the request. if you know anything about the begun, you know it has a difficult trigger pull requiring 6-10 pounds. it's drop safe. which is the reason most of elite government and military units purchase this weapon. this is a favorite of navy seals. a gun designed to not go off by accident. folks, let me give it to you straight. this was not a verdict based on truth and justice and fact, but on leftist rejection of law and order agenda of this nation. i have spent more than three decade prosecuting crimes and sitting on the bench. ...

>> mr. zarate was never charged with stealing that gun. that was never a part of this case. it had been stolen from the parked car of a federal blm ranger four days earlier, not far from the pier. yes, zarate's defense was that he was sitting onit a bench, he looked down onto the bench that was swiveling, and there was a bundle, a rag, a t-shirt, and when he bent down to pick it up to see what it was, the gun fired. again, part of the defense was the trigger pull on my 40 caliber pistol was so light, just barely, the barest amount of pressure would cause it to fire. >> tucker: that's ridiculou...

>> they don't know the password and they try to guess it and if they guess it wrong too many times, they can never get into the phone. there are hundreds of phones like that they can't open that they've sent to the fbi. this remains a problem even though the fbi did figure out how to get into the san bernardino phone. there's no universal answer to this. so it continues to be a big deal. the other thing i thought was interesting is the atf said the gun was not firing fully automatically. it was one round per trigger pull. on the number, they had said there were 15 30 round magazines. if they w...