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The young man is laying on the street with a knife and he's shot 13 times. that's an execution. that's first-degree murder. it's an awful case. this is not comparable. a gun changes everything. the trigger pull changes everything. >> jim cavanaugh, much appreciated for your insights. turning now to san bernardino, a three-day search at a lake is over. officials did not say if they found any evidence abandoned by syed farook and his wife tashfeen malik. malik passed three background checks by american immigration officials as she moved to the united states from pakistan. she made little effor...

Really? >> yes, sir. >> it did not feel like five seconds. >> okay. so you're going to have two marks there for the next couple of days. go ahead and help him up. >> memories to last a lifetime. >> i can't say that i get any satisfaction out of any trigger pull, but this was an enjoyable one for me. >> how did that feel? >> i mean, that was bad. it was debilitating. i mean, there's nothing like it i've ever experienced. i definitely wouldn't want to experience it again. i've watched many inmates tell me they won't do certain things after doing that. that's why i've always wondered. yeah. now i...

>> it was 4:15 in the morning and i'm curious if he was up or wasn't up. but the trigger pull on a .9 millimeter, a glock is pretty tough. but the but the blood spatter test will stern certainly tell us what the reality was. thank you for being with us. and for the first time the obama administration is retaliating against north korea for the sony cyber attack. so what is the u.s. doing? and is it enough? next. at. well, did you know that playing cards with kenny rogers gets old pretty fast? ♪ you got to know when to hold'em. ♪ ♪ know when to fold 'em. ♪ ♪ know when to walk away. â...

>> it was 4:15 in the morning and i'm curious if he was up or wasn't up. but the trigger pull on a .9 millimeter, a glock is pretty tough. but the but the blood spatter test will stern certainly tell us what the reality was. thank you for being with us. and for the first time the obama administration is retaliating against north korea for the sony cyber attack. so what is the u.s. doing? and is huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know you that former pro football player ickey woods will celebrate almost anything? u...

Of days. go ahead and help him up. >> memories to last a lifetime. >> i can't say that i get any satisfaction out of any trigger pull, but this was an enjoyable one for me. >> how did that feel? >> i mean, that was bad. it was debilitating. i mean, there's nothing like it i've ever experienced. i definitely wouldn't want to experience it again. i've watched many inmates tell me they won't do certain things after doing that. i've always wondered that. now i know why. that is not fun. definitely effective. >> but it is amazing how quickly you recover. >> it is. now that i've had this to experien...