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Now, our country does not pay a lot -- a number of folks didn't know the aca and obamacare were the same thing. what they do know -- >> i remember that. >> for once in their lives they have a tangible benefit that changed their lives and here the republicans have been saying for eight years basically they want to take it away and they have no replacement. that's real life. we can't make it just about partisan politics. >> let's talk about the politics -- >> that's wrong. they havencan't take it away un there's a replacement. >> tripp first, then to you. it seems to me the logic of people that ...

Joining me is john braybender, republican strategist. president of the progressive policy group, demos. trip gabriel have covered the town hall events for "the new york times." tripp, the hearings are held by members of the house, members of the senate, mostly republicans we're talking about. who is out in the crowd making the protest so loud and so effective so far? who are they? >> they're constituents in the districts of the congresspeople and the senators in the states. you just showed 2,000 people or so in arkansas. those were, you know -- >> locals. >> yep. >> they're not as we used to s...

Look at the tea party. the tea party was started out as a grassroots movement, i agree, but then it did get electoralized with a bunch of hard money. i don't think we're going to see that on the left. i don't think we're going too see to see tea party primaries in the same way. >> we'll see if some of the godfathers come along. anyway, thank you, john brabebd bender, heather mcgee. tripp. john, thank you for putting this perspective, a lot of help there. tonight at 10:00 p.m., join me along with brian williams and rachel maddow for a full two-ur special, we examine the first month of the tru...