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Well back in the 1970s with barry switzer, we'll run the wish bone. it's not ideology. it's stupidity. stupid outdated tactic that won't work. >> think that's right. i think this is also, if you look at the grassroots of the republican party they are so hungry for leadership, and i'm reminded of that scene in "the american president" michael j. fox say they are so hungry for leadership, they will take the mirage. it's not honest to call on troeb republicans to defund obama care. >> do you know who said it's not honest? do you know who said it's not honor northeast say we'll shut down the feder...

That made a lot of money and got a lot of mailing list names have actually succeeded in bringing together the republican party. the overwhelming majority back people like tom coburn, paul ryan, scott walker, charles krauthammer, conservative icons who are smart enough to know this is not how you actually win elections. >> and to point out there's more than nothing that republicans can do. there's been 21 laws passed and signed by the president that have changed obama care as it was originally passed. there's work we can do to passaic this law that's so unpopular and we believe is a bad policy ...

Outcome we want. there's lots of things they can pick from where they do have support of the american people. >> on obama care american people right now are on the side of the republicans. >> on the policy. >> on the policy. you can't find a poll that doesn't show americans agree with republicans when it comes to being against obama care. so guess what? frame it. strategically for a while. frame it in a way that you get something very significant out of it. >> you're talking to the republicans at this point? because the white house -- >> house republicans are passing this. i'm talking to the s...

This is the role of kenya soldiers in somalia. so i think it was largely local. again, it's a reminder terrorism has a global reach. they are all connected loosely with training, with funding and the rest. if it's not them it could or will be somebody else. >> looks like some possible conclusion, the situation is breaking right now. we're watching this closely and getting the latest in from nbc's ron allen. let's get to politics now as we watch that. there's just one week to go for lawmakers to strike a deal to fund the federal government and avoid a shutdown. but we appear no closer to a solu...

Shutdown? we got eight days left. if so, what does that look like? what happens after that? >> that's the interesting thing. so presidents have the ability to shape what a shutdown looks like and what the message is going forward. president has a much bigger bully pulpit than any single leader in congress. if you go back to the 1995-1996 shutdowns what you saw the message slipping away from newt gingrich and the republicans. back then they controlled both houses of congress and that's a key difference from the situation right now as republicans only control the house. president obama has the a...