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Pitching is attached to federal immigration policy, that the existence of this visa. you're saying in the connection of the pitch they're saying very explicitly to investors this is donald trump sitting at the head of it? >> right. there's been a lot of criticism and talk of reform about the practice. some people suggested getting rid of it sbiefrmt it's an important decision in the next six months whether they're going to renew this program or not. they were trying to reassure investors these were the key stake skmorlds it's likely to be renewed, but we can assume it will be renewed. >> part ...

You're saying in the connection of the pitch they're saying very explicitly to investors this is donald trump sitting at the head of it? >> right. there's been a lot of criticism and talk of reform about the practice. some people suggested getting rid of it entirely. it's an important decision in the next six months whether they're going to renew this program or not. they were trying to reassure investors these were the key stakeholders and it's likely to be renewed, but we can assume it will be renewed. >> part of the reason they're doing these road shows is they're having trouble financing f...