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Appears to be an explosive vest, the police now saying those explosive vests were fake. these men did not have guns. they used knives and their van. six people dead, the assailants dead. >> the first thing is that, look, terrorists, their tactics change. i think we've heard speculation -- you had a previous guest who talked about -- it was an atf who said if they saw something like this, they would treat it as a bomb. i'm speculating but that's probably their intent. the terrorist, their games and aims are still the same. their tactics change. >> tell me what you make of three assailants, not ...

Vest. the police now saying those explosive vests were fake. these men did not have guns. they used knives. and of course, their van. six people dead. the three suspects dead. 30 people in hospital. you've been watching this with me the whole time. what do you make of it now? >> well, the first thing is that, look, terrorists, their tactics change. we've heard speculation about your previous guest who talked about, who spoke about that he saw that something that looked like that, they would treat it as a bomb. if i'm speculating here, that's probably their intent. at the core of this, ali, wha...

Government. keep this in mind. there are 150 or more of afghan soldiers giving their lives every month to defend their country. the afghan people are stepping up. our job is to advise and consent. to hit terrorists where they don't have the ability to and we do. i think we also need to go after taliban targets again. i think the thing the american people need to keep in mind is this. if you think the devastating truck attack was bad yesterday and it was bad yesterday, these are the kind of people that would love to be able to do this on the streets of the united states of america. and what is ...

Devastating truck attack was bad yesterday, these are the people that would love to be able to do this on the streets of the united states of america. and what is stopping that we're fighting them over there versus relaxing and letting them do that here. this is a very important war but it is important to keep in mind when you fight an ideology you are not fighting the nazis with a standing army when you are fighting an ideology this will be a generational war. >> reporter: what you just said. the point you made. >> that's right. >> adam is absolutely right. >> reporter: i want to talk about t...

So all of that plays to their very hardcore support base in the uk and europe. they are actually energized by this attack. right now, the investigation of the center of it is what did he do in libya and who did he connect with over there. the recent intelligence suggested isis building up external operations unit in libya. that unit suspected of being connected to the berlin truck attack in december of last year and in communication with that attacker. they managed to build up a presence in libya. it is degraded as michael was saying. libya is now the new front of isis external terror against ...