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Understanding of history, they are frightened, horrified, absolutely appalled that the people elected to go to washington, d.c. to the nation's capitol to represent us don't see what's happening. >> one of those points i would say would be the interview on cnn with kevin mccarthy who may become the next speaker of the house. guys, i thought this was particularly significant because he flat out refused to take on that issue of the lying. he was presented with those statements. what you're seeing now is that the president's allies on capitol hill are shifting to the issue of collusion. they're s...

>> yeah. the president going so far as to discuss pardons with mueller. so here the president is he does oversee mueller. mueller is part of the justice department. and it looks like he's sort of warning them as if to say, look, here is what i see my power as. here is what i think i could do. i'm not sure how mueller could not have seen that in some ways at the very least as a threat. you have to remember the backdrop of all of this is the interview. the president's lawyers are saying to mueller, we don't think you need to interview him. and they're preparing for a subpoena. they're preparing ...

Canadians as much as anything and the prime minister referred to this is that we use this provision of the law designed for national security emergencies only used before during the oil embargoes in the 1970s against one of our neighbors to whom, by the way, we export more steel to canada than we import. >> that's why the trudeau interview is really important. >> our closest ally in so many respects. >> we did this unilaterally and the fact that we used national security, it sets a precedent. anyone else around the world, if they want they can cite their national security. this is how things u...

I'm sorry. let me correct. i have to be correct, the president's lawyer rudy giuliani is now saying that the president of the united states can assassinate the director of the fbi and not even be indicted. that's really the question i think that every republican should have to answer today on capitol hill. and that it should be answered in the briefing room today. >> yeah. i thought heidi mentioned this interview with kevin mccarthy which i saw which d everything he could to avoid it and kept talking about collusion. i want to say two things. one, as i think michael schmidt said, the point of ...