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They are doing so through the prism of fear, hysteria, how do you cut through that? >> it is difficult. as far as you want to make the child feel comfortable to trust you and trust the process and engage them and be able to make them feel comfortable enough to talk to you. >> what is interesting, john, is that the parents said they already allowed the children ages five and eight to be interviewed by police and they were only interviewed for -- one for 30 minutes and the other for 50 minutes. that is just enough to establish a rapport. >> and when you did the interviews the detectives are not ...

They are doing so through the prism of fear, hysteria, how do you cut through that? >> it is difficult. as far as you want to make the child feel comfortable to trust you and trust the process and engage them and be able to make them feel comfortable enough to talk to you. >> what is interesting, john, is that the parents said they already allowed the children ages five and eight to be interviewed by police and they were only interviewed for -- one for 30 minutes and the other for 50 minutes. that is just enough to establish a rapport. >> and when you did the interviews the detectives are not ...

They are doing so through the prism of fear, hysteria, how do you cut through that? >> it is difficult. as far as you want to make the child feel comfortable to trust you and trust the process and engage them and be able to make them feel comfortable enough to talk to you. >> what is interesting, john, is that the parents said they already allowed the children ages five and eight to be interviewed by police and they were only interviewed for -- one for 30 minutes and the other for 50 minutes. that is just enough to establish a rapport. >> and when you did the interviews the detectives are not ...