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good evening from new york. i m in for chris hayes. we are still waiting for the january 6th committee s report on donald trump s attempted coup. but today, ahead of the final product, the committee has released a brand-new batch of transcripts from its closed-door interviews. those transcripts providing new insight into the inner workings of the trump administration, both in the days leading up to january 6th and as trump s inner circle scrambled to respond to the committee, the committee s investigation. in fact, among the new transcripts is an interview the committee conducted with the former trump secretary of defense, this man, mark esper, who answered questions surrounding the ex president s desire to use the military to quell domestic disputes. in an interview with former deputy press secretary sarah matthews, who said she heard trump seemed to privately admit that he lost the 2020 election. quote, alyssa fara, the former communication director said to me that ....
Donald trump had this grievous form of angry populism that works. that doesn t work right now. it s a different time. he s going back to his old playbook but voters want something you. i mean, very rarely can the og, the original sustain that type of hold on the party. i think donald trump is learning he cannot. the interesting thing here, ali, it is the republican architecture wants him gone. ron desantis, mitch mcconnell, ted cruz, marco rubio, they want the georgia prosecutor to get him, they want laetitia james to get him. they want somebody to get him so they don t have to do it. the question then is, where does the trump constituency come into play here? is he losing that constituency or are they still with him in 2024? this is a really good question. it may be mathematical, tara. if even some portion of the trump consistency, many of whom are activating the politics by him, stay with donald trump, it means the numbers to win an election are too small. ....