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outside, contrasting us with other countries that knowingly don't have that. we're telling ourselves that we do, but, you know, from the very beginning and from all the most noble americans who have upheld that tradition, separation of church and state is just as good for the state as it is for the church. it is -- it protects religion as much as it protects the policy and giving it up that split endangers both. we play with that line a lot and it's in a really dangerous place on some parts of the ride right. >> so good on you. thank you. greatly appreciate it. >> thanks, my friend. ...

Butina received a heroes welcome when she was deported back to russia. now, as peter strzok writes, quote, at a moment of grave national peril for the united states, this was an astonishing intelligence achievement for russia. joining me now is peter strzok, a trunk professor at georgetown university school of foreign service, and a former deputy of the fbi's counter intelligence division. he's the author of compromised: counterintelligence and the threat of donald j trump. peter, great to have you with us. thanks for making time for us tonight. i wanna pick up more on your op-ed. in it, you c...