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Evidence. shannon: what do you make of that? they are on recess for several weeks. are they not taking this seriously enough? >> i don't think there could be a more important issue at a more important time. they should be focused on this. i don't agree there was no obstruction of justice. volume 2 of the mueller report deals with at least 10 instances where the president had a direct hand in preventing or trying -- >> there is no conclusion. mueller left it up to the justice department and what did the justice department do? the attorney general and deputy attorney general closed that book of ...

If we don't have a president and white house that can be trusted and from everything we have seen in the mueller reporting volume to the president has clearly obstructed justice. it happened before that in terms of how he continuously lies, he directs attention to the media saying they are the enemy of the state. any number of things on a consistent basis. would not fly in ordinary times. >> reporter: you think jerry nadler is talking about the president? >> we need to hold the president accountable through an impeachment process and i called forward a month ago and that is what we need to do....

That isn't for me. i don't trust jerry nadler to find the truest new mattress. i to trust mueller. this is going to blow up in his face. >> martha: the president did have a conversation this morning, it did raise some eyebrows, i want to play it for you and maybe you can explain i it. >> robert mueller, they worked for him, and the chocolate lovers were together, and they had texts back and forth. >> you gave william barr the -- >> he terminated the emails, he terminated all of the stuff between strzok and page. >> martha: that is something i had never heard, that robert mueller had terminated...

About his staff, they were very disgruntled with bill barr's assessment and perhaps nudged their leader to get up there and speak on their behalf. do you think that is part of what is at work, we are hearing reports that they are writing books and many are trying to land some big jobs at law firms. with this at the top of the resume, they are working with the special counsel. >> i don't know what motivates mr. mueller to come in. maybe it is a subpoena, maybe he wants to come in. but i know this. he told the country that he would confine his comments to the document. the document speaks for it...

Cell phone over to the employer, and somehow the information got erased. i don't know how this happened. that would be a good question, but the president is frustrated about strzok and page, mccabe and comey. mr. horwitz is going to give a report soon about whether or not the fisa court was defrauded, and a promise the president were going to get to the bottom of it, i'm not going to get in the way of mr. durham, he is looking at the criminality, did somebody violate the law when it came to the counterintelligence investigation, the pfizer warned. but my job is to lay out the truth the best i ...