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Both rick is a chicago guy. we have seen washington go through this transition. i would say 20 years ago, we had a trust problem between the populous and law enforcement. it has been slowly restored. what's worked, do you think, in washington? >> i think the police in d. considd.c. have -- they have to try to avoid a cultural problem in our country which is that people look at young black men as threats, automatically. it's how they have been defined. >> guilty until proven innocent? >> yes. when you add that to the justice system, that creates a volatile mix. i think the police in d.c. have t...

We have seen washington go through this transition. i would say 20 years ago, we had a trust problem between the populous and law enforcement. it has been slowly restored. what's worked, do you think, in washington? >> i think the police in d. considd.c. have -- they have to try to avoid a cultural problem in our country which is that people look at young black men as threats, automatically. it's how they have been defined. >> guilty until proven innocent? >> yes. when you add that to the justice system, that creates a volatile mix. i think the police in d.c. have tried harder than in a lot of...

These cases might represent a small percentage of all the issues. police, for the most part, do a good job. but that doesn't mean that we can't do better. and i think this is the time to begin this discussion. >> you are both here in d.c. you have been residents with me here a while. rick is a chicago guy. kaseem is an atlanta guy. we have seen washington go through this transition. i would say 20 years ago, we had a trust problem between the populous and law enforcement. it has been slowly restored. what's worked, do you think, in washington? >> i think the police in d.c. have learned that th...

Was just wrong. >> it's not just lawmakers who have a trust issue with mr. obama. voters apparently do too. mr. obama was trusted by 63% of americans at one point. as of april of this year though, that trust level has shrunk to 48%. so let's talk about that. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. john, i'll start with you. how big of a trust problem does the president have? >> it's striking that he's fallen 20 points from his previous high i was through the 2012 election. 20-point drop in trustworthiness is significant. it's the sum total of nsa scandals and questions about ...

To raise money by demonizing leaders. he's trying to show leadership so they get out of his way so the republicans can claim credit for getting things done in washington. martha: can he succeed, mary katharine? >> there was a chance you could get piecemeal reforms through. like i said, you still have this trust problem which is very real and based on the fact that the obama administration has been untrustworthy. so that is a real concern. >> when you are talking about the issue of getting things done, getting something through. republicans when it comes to the mid-terms will want to say look, ...