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Security council in iran. and when he was the country's chief nuclear negotiator with the west, he negotiated a halt in enrichment and then later said he had used that time bought for negotiation to go ahead with the program. now he also backed the violent crackdown against the pro-democracy student movement in 1999. you may say well all of that doesn't seem to indicate he's going to want to work with the west, but then there's this. he is accused state-run media of censorship and publishing lies. taking on the establishment in that regard. but one senior middle eastern diplomat told me before...

The country's most powerful man. so has anything really changed? host of npr's morning edition who joined me and the carnegie endowment, great to see both of you. appreciate you both taking the time. steve what was amazing, i was thinking on friday the day of the election when you know i was talking to well it was frankly some of the young people about voting for rowhani, they were very passionate about him. they were believing in his reform message. but they didn't think he had any shot of winning. i mean did you feel that same sentiment on friday? or did you feel a lot of people thought that...

Hassan rowhani said he's willing to talk to the united states but only if the u.s. recognizes iran's right to a nuclear program. pretty similar sentiment to the one i heard from his campaign manager last week in tehran. would he negotiate with the united states? >> if the united states really shows interest, and being reliable like the negotiation, i think he will do it. but it doesn't mean at the first -- >> so should the u.s. trust rowhani or not? he is now known as a moderate. a centrist. but those terms are relative. he has been a part of iran's political and military establishment for dec...