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Minsk two could help him do that, but the secretary and chairman have laid out very capable, multiple military options inside ukraine on the one hand, with very high civilian casualties as well. >> general, shannon bream here. the 1994 budapest memo came up, signatories, the u.s., u.k. and russia, recognizing the territorial integrity of ukraine. could we trust vladimir putin will hold up that end of the bargain of russia's signature of the deal leaving ukraine alone, or will he continue to play the semantics games, saying there are portions of ukraine that are not ukraine, and he would have a...

That we are interested in them, interested in helping them, the types of things we do with them routinely is train with them and enable them, and really increase their level of readiness and so that's been very helpful to them, and it has strengthened our bonds with our allies and partners in the region. these are temporary deployments, and so again, we will continue to sort this out as we go forward, but again, we are focussed on nato, we are focussed on reassuring our allies and that's what this is all about. in terms of trusting putin, i don't think this is about trusting putin. this is abo...

Against one is an attack against all. and i thought that was a really important statement for the secretary and the chairman to affirm. >> he is getting more attention right now. that is putin. but in terms of his calculations, general clark, so far, putin's actions have actually sparked a boost in nato troops and arms in russia's backyard. he's basically provided justification for nato to expand further, should it desire so. isn't that his worst nightmare? did putin orverplay his hand? >> it absolutely is. his worst option is nato stays united and countries there continue to seek nato protect...

Is an attack against us all. and as president biden has said, the united states holds this as a sacred obligation. and we will do right by that commitment. and mr. putin can do the right thing as well. there's no reason that this situation has to evolve into conflict. he can choose to deescalate. he can order his troops away. he can choose dialogue and diplomacy. whatever he decides united states will stand with our allies and partners. i want to briefly address two other items before we open it up for questions. first, on wednesday i was honored to join the president when he signed an executi...

Begged to be given the protection from russia. as the foreign minister of bulgaria said to me in the 1990s, she said russia today is weak but some day it will be strong. before then, bulgaria must be a member of nato. that was the sentiment all the way through eastern europe. they knew what the russians would come back and they want rush -- russia wants its eastern european empire back. that's what this is really about. >> general, it was chilling to hear general milley say the ukrainian people would suffer immensely if war breaks out. what could war look like? >> as we all know, there are a n...