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Do you agree with him? >> i think the two viewpoints. one, if we do not pass something that the electric will get angry and on the elect republicans. the other possibility, and this is what i adhere to. if you pass it does not work on the leaves and the obama death spiral, ryan-care. that is a disaster as well. doing nothing is not the worst-case scenario. i think passing a bad bill that leaves and place the obamacare mandate in the death spiral of obamacare. that is the worst of all possible scenarios. >> bill: should you blow off the august recess? >> i think we should get our work done, as ...

To you. this is going quickly south here, katie. let me take you back this is the dn see chair, tom perez. >> i don't care. they don't give a blank about people! >> trump care, ryan care, i'll tell you when i call it. i don't care, because of those republican leaders and president trump, don't give a blank about the people they were trying to help. >> bill: if you want to get on tv, mission accomplished, but that was the root of romney mcdaniel's comment. >> i think tom perez should be more concerned about getting booed his own dnc rallies then calling republicans names and using profanity to ...

Doesn't mind this thing dieing. i think he doesn't mind going to plan b, which is the health care bill we have now, obamacare will have -- whatever weaknesses they have he'll work on those. he'll watch the system deteriorate, weaken, die in some place through lack of insurers. he'll say, it's the democrats. >> he can get away with it. the reason why, when obama came up with his health care plan, the affordable care act, this is being called obamacare. ryan care, mcconnell care. if it fails, it's not on him. it's not trump care. this is the failure of the democrats because the democrats should ...

Reform, or health reform. what gets tackled first? >> i think tax reform in some ways need to be tackled first. in some ways you have to deal with it that ceiling. he's got to get tax reform done. if that is critical. as john points out, it took 14 months or more, 17 months by some copulations for obamacare to get put in place. there is a hybrid solution, as john is perhaps adjusting. as you can see, ryan care is not doing so well right now. i think that's going to take longer. i think they have to deal with tax issues first, and then with health care, and eventually infrastructure. >> heather...

Split? single digit win, did people flip and vote for the democrat? strong likely republican voters or was there attrition where people did not show up wet early voted? >> i'm not sure how democrats will be able to spin this as a positive thing if they lose because it's not even a midterm. it's the midterm of a midterm sort of election. and you have, the left is very vocal right now. they are very energized. they hate donald trump. the resistance movement is a very real. they are raising money. if they can't win. obviously montana is a pretty republican state but it's not totally hostile to de...