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>> because they promised this for seven years. this is their number one campaign promise. they have to it to get onto anything else. >> bret: but are there going to be enough people who say we don't have to do this, because i didn't agree to this. >> in the end, they are going to say you cannot undercut a new president on his first big legislative -- >> bret: how much political capital will president trump invest in it? >> does it all of a sudden become ryan care? we don't know. he says he is in selling mode. he is going to go out there. >> bret: breitbart is already calling it ryan care. >> o...

Mulvaney say you have to be with the president or politically you're dead. >> is it a carrot or a stick? >> this is a stick. >> the white house is saying it's actually olive branches. >> olive branches hurt, too, if you swing them hard enough. >> why is steve bannon a wild card in these negotiations, as you have said? >> he's called himself an economic nationalist. there as no economic nationalist under which you annihilate coverage for tens of millions of people. if you look at the way breitbart is covering this, they're calling it ryan care, obamacare 2.0. >> betsy, talking about pressure on...

Guy you and i both respect very much, paul ryan. but nobody knows what is in this bill. the cbo is not going to have a chance to score this bill. actually, by obamacare standa s standards, this process looks even more close. do you agree with me that tom cotton, the house needs to slow down and be transparent and start over? >> absolutely, joe. what i would think they can do is now open up this process and at that time ryan care version and move back to a full repeal of obamacare, and put in about five or six changes that are republican core principles. cut all of the taxes immediately, block ...

Political point because the white house is creating the distance between the president and this bill. as much as they're all embracing, we're all for one, going together, the reality is the white house is calling this through breitbart is calling this ryan care. this isn't trumpcare. when you hear kellyanne conway go on air and talk about who would ever want to tie the president's name to a health care bill? i'm like, dude, you just did that for the last six years. that's the reality. they understand the impact it can have if this goes south and pt president's name is on it. >> michael steele,...

>> because they promised this for seven years. this is their number one campaign promise. they have to do it to get onto anything else. >> bret: but are there going to be enough people who say we don't have to do this, because i didn't agree to this. >> in the end, they are going to say you cannot undercut a new president on his first big legislative -- >> bret: how much political capital will president trump invest in it? >> does it all of a sudden become ryan care? we don't know. he says he is in selling mode. he is going to go out there. >> bret: breitbart is already calling it ryan care. >...