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Joining me now member of the house intelligence and judiciary committees, eric swell waalwell. >> happy new year. >> to you as well. start with the shutdown now in its third week. we're obviously familiar with the democratic plans to try to pass the individual appropriations bills starting with treasury and irs. however, we also know that mitch mcconnell is saying that he won't put it on the floor unless the president says he's going to sign it. we heard from the vice president today. the president's not interested in signing it. so what's plan c? >> well, it's public sentiment, kasie and i ho...