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>> exactly. trump signed an executive order in june to look at what regulatory burdens might be leading to this. for example san francisco does have a huge homeless problem. in the san francisco bay area there are more than 20 cities that have urban green belts, areas developers can't touch. rents are sky-high in san francisco and people can't afford to live there. why doesn't the governor think about talking to the city and opening some stuff up. there is a lot that they could look at. it's much easier just to blame the president and use him to score political points. >> not just blame the pr...

Question, richey neil says i need the tax returns, the white house says you're not getting the tax returns, then what. >> now they have gone to court. there's always the issue when it comes to stuff like this that this may be a political question the courts can't touch. in reality, i think the courts have jurisdiction over this issue, and i think ultimately looking at the language of the law, they will take the easy route, which is look, it says shall, must, you shall turn over these returns. >> and the trump administration has shown a completely unwillingness to work with subpoenas on other i...

>> we're only looking at discretionary spending. this is the agency money -- defense, education, department of interior -- that congress decides every year. the other 70 cents out of every dollar is entitlement spending, social security and medicare -- beth elizabeth we heard campaign rhetoric that there may be changes to entitlement spending. is that a possibility? >> we need changes to our entitlements, that's where most of the money is, and our budget is far, far out of balance. but president trump has said he won't touch -- elizabeth: baby boomers, he can't. >> that's right. this pledge is...