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Number one is that those troops on the frontlines trying to keep us safe are in desperate need of some relief on the budget. they have airplanes that won't fly. there are ships that can't sail. we have cut too much. the size of the army and marine corps. you have foirllks that have deployed over and over and over again to the middle east, and it's wearing out the force. secondly, i hope that the president and the commanders talk about the rules of engagement and the level of micromanagement that we have seen in the previous administration because there's been a lot of frustrations that the mil...

Fund-raising, and far more time talking to voters, as you're saying. are the candidates you're talking to for your research, are they unhappy about how much time they have to spend fund-raising and do they understand the corrosive impact of spending tons of time fund-raising and not talking to voters or working on policy? >> well, i think a lot of politically interested americans feel that way about money. you know, they see it as a corrosive force in american politics. but you might be surprised by, you know, these are state legislative candidates. a lot of them have never run before. and som...

They weren't pinned. i mean, looked like most of t m them -- >> how were they pinned? >> pinned by different debris. desks, 2x4s, pieces of metal. >> and he also talked about that he pulled them out, lined them up one by one, and he just tried to be as respectful as he could. and tried to do the right thing. you can imagine how traumatizing that experience is. >> he sounds it. he sounds it in his voice. he went there hoping to find a relative, and he found something much, much worse than he expected. was there any sign or indication, you know, what's a little unclear, how this search went down...