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>> and you wonder how much it's telegraphing 2012, let me ask you really quickly, general, you campaigned for president. i was on the trail with you a few times. what did you hear in that speech that tells you where he's going as candidate obama? >> i think he's moved to the middle. and it's going to be very hard for the republicans to get this red meat issue and get traction with it that they need if he follows through in the course of that speech. >> general clark, secretary spellings, thank you very much, ben zimmer, thank you for coming in as well. we'll be talking more with them coming up...

Said is, you know, we need stricter rules on those gun stores. why doesn't that raise flags? there's a rule that has been proposed at the white house to require gun stores to report two or more long-gun purchases within a five-day period. but that rule has yet to take effect. the nra has been lobbying very heavily against it. >> did you, julie, think there was a missed opportunity last night by the president? i know some people were very disappointed, especially in light of what happened in tucson, that there wasn't a call for some new gun control. >> i think the president gave a good speech, ...

You also have the empty chair for gabby giffords who, as we've been reporting, thankfully, is getting better. but do you think that that was a positive change for a state of the union, general? >> i do. >> i think it was -- i agree with what margaret said. i think he hit the right tone. although there's some great things about american history and we're a great people, we've got a lot of work to do. and i think he hit a real leadership tone there. so people understand he's serious. >> so they're building on the tucson speech. >> rate. he's serious, balanced, he's going to try to bring the coun...

Think people battles calmed down and think that goes to a lot of it. he has done some smart things, tucson speech, the perception, everybody calm down and not accuse each other, that ended up being a positive positive for him. >> bill: the economy has not improved all that much, new unemployment numbers out today, it's still very dicey and people are very on edge. the other thing is, when asked if you would vote for barack obama against nobody, they don't put anybody, would will you vote for obama against anybody else -- 51% say we're not going to vote for him. >> i forgot to add the fact that...

Think people battles calmed down and think that goes to a lot of it. he has done some smart things, tucson speech, the perception, everybody calm down and not accuse each other, that ended up being a positive positive for him. >> bill: the economy has not improved all that much, new unemployment numbers out today, it's still very dicey and people are very on edge. the other thing is, when asked if you would vote for barack obama against nobody, they don't put anybody, would will you vote for obama against anybody else -- 51% say we're not going to vote for him. >> i forgot to add the fact that...