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Pretty well liked among republican house members. he says this. >> i think mick was telling the truth there, that there was a quid pro quo, and then he went back and realized, well, that's not what the president wants to hear. they wish they weren't trapped in this position, and i hear that from my colleagues on the house floor. frankly, i think a lot of the retirmr retirements bewe're hearing abo is just trying to ride out the president and they might try to come back later on once the president is gone. >> he's right in terms of trump exhau exhaustion and trump fatigue. >> that's true, but i...

To do is say, hey, judge, sentence him to the probation. don't give him time because of these situations. anybody would have known they would have put the judge in a spot that are you guilty or not guilty? the judge said when we call all the other relevant conduct, the turkey stuff that he wasn't charged for, and he got the most lenient plea -- >> shepard: that's what happens when you cooperate. the judge said we're not going to pull it out here yet. he cooperated on big, big stuff. that's the reason we're only going to ask for almost nothing on this one thing of lying. but there's more. >> an...

To the nation, he confessed to it all and became the number one witness on everything. that blank section of the document, of ult tall the righe are probably everything leading to the trump campaign and everything he knows. >> that's interesting. >> what we don't know is going to be about trump. >> let me draw you out on that. that's the opposite inference of mark meadows. i'm not saying i know. i'm saying i don't know. mark said what's not in here leads him to a positive inference. you're saying this negative space would be the worst russia stuff because it's not the turkey stuff and it's not...

Told relate to the russia stuff and israel stuff. the things he was in communication with the guilty plea with members of the president-elect's transition team. and the far stuff, which happened later is not quite as in the main stream as these allegations are. what is interesting about the plea agreement in the first segment of the show, you were talking about the turkey stuff and money flynn got from the russians and whether it was a failure to register as a foreign agent or whether there might have been a kidnapping plot. >> it's not in there. >> it doesn't protect him from being prosecuted...

Investigation overall. >> okay. >> the things that they actually prosecuted him for, the lies he told were like the russia stuff and israel stuff. the things he was in communication with the guilty plea with members of the president elect's transition team and the far stuff, which happened later is not quite as in the main stream as these allegations are. what is interesting about the plea agreement in the first segment of the show, you were talking about the turkey stuff and money flynn got from the russians and whether it was a failure to register and whether or not there might have been a k...