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Stuff is good. but at the same time, it's about the stuff in here. it is not the substance, i kind of like some of the stuff, too, i like turkey stuffing. so anyway, there is a lot of good stuff out there and sometimes i'm tempted to get down with all of this flurry of buying and consumerism. but i think you know what? these people out shopping are buying stuff to give to others so that sharing being generous owe -- >> their heart is in the right place, too. >> but we do, and this is where our buddy, hope francis, comes in. he reminds us that the temptation of getting and buying and hoarding a...

Word, spring and summer do. life conquers death, that is the meaning of christmas. >> that is lovely. how -- when you watch television, you see all the commercials about get this stuff for everybody in your family. you got to have a lot of stuff. stuff is good. but at the same time, it's about the stuff in here. it is not the substance, i kind of like some of the stuff, too, i like turkey stuffing. so anyway, there is a lot of good stuff out there and sometimes i'm tempted to get down with all of this flurry of buying and consumerism. but i think you know what? these people out shopping are bu...

Near to the rebirth of the sun, when the sun is at its lowest and begins to be reborn with the winter solstice, that is when we celebrate the birth of the son of god. and winter doesn't have the last word, spring and summer do. the sun continues, life conquers death, that is the meaning of christmas. >> that is lovely. when you watch television you see all the commercials about get this stuff for everybody in your family. you have to have a lot of stuff. stuff is good. >> yes. >> but at the same time, it is the stuff in here. >> it is not the substance, i kind of like some of the stuff, too, i...