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He might have had that led them to colluding with the russians? do you think they had that conversation? >> i don't think they had an extensive conversation about the details of the case. >> of his innocence or guilt. >> they've had long conversations at the golf club in virginia for hours on end. what they're talking about is the tv case against mueller, how to go after mueller's credibility. >> never about the facts. this is an important question. >> why was goould brought in the president thought the other lawyers were too cooperative. >> the actual guilt or innocence of this president has ...

Sentence. it's just the latest twist in this bizarre sort of made for tv case that continues. she will be back in court later today as the death penalty phase begins here. but she says she was shocked by the guilty verdict the first degree murder guilty verdict. >> do find the defendant as to count one first degree murder guilty. >> jodi arias had very little reaction in the courtroom to the guilty verdict, but minutes later, she did an interview with phoenix television station ksaz. arias says, she understands why the jury didn't believe her because of the lies she originally told investigato...