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So very interesting. and part of the reason for the delay in the bush announcement because, joe, as you know once he's officially a candidate, he can't talk to people who are leading the super pac. and that includes mike murphy who is the brainchild -- >> are you surprised mike murphy has been one of jeb's biggest cheerleaders? are you surprised mike murphy is going to the super pac instead of staying close to jeb where he can actually talk to him? >> this shows you how campaigns are different and the fact that having this hone to to the campaign commercial and as you know mike murphy now in h...

>> what a deal. >> by the way, you made fun of my shoes. i have to wear shoes. i'm the only tv guy in the whole country that wears jeans on tv. all the time. every night. i don't put -- >> do you ever break out shorts? >> yeah, of course. especially when i'm playing golf. wow. >> now the store was over there. now it's the conference room. you came in those doors. there are so many people that we had to -- we would have lines wanting to get in. >> the store is packed now. >> yeah, there's a lot of people here. >> it's early in the day. >> yeah. everybody is rolling in. >> you all love willie? >...

>> what a deal. >> by the way, you made fun of my shoes. i have to wear shoes. i'm the only tv guy in the whole country that wears jeans on tv. all the time. every night. i don't put -- >> do you ever break out shorts? >> yeah, of course. especially when i'm playing golf. wow. >> now the store was over there. now it's the conference room. you came in those doors. there are so many people that we had to -- we would have lines wanting to get in. >> the store is packed now. >> yeah, there's a lot of people here. >> it's early in the day. >> yeah. everybody is rolling in. >> you all love willie? >...

On? >> until you saw it on fox news when you watched the o'reilly factor, right? >> bob? >> oh, i'm sorry. >> first of all, you wouldn't be allowed into the white house, the secret service would take you down. >> the fact that he can stand alpha to alpha, bill is at the top of his game. he's at the top of his game, it's -- all right, now, he and i may be slightly older than that, it's okay. he's a very good tv guy. >> andrea, you tell me if you were -- if white house communications director -- if you were advising president obama on how to approach sunday's interview with bill o'reilly, what w...

Scandals before you saw it on tv. and which show did you learn it on? >> you saw it on fox news when you watched the o'reilly factor, right? bob, what do you think -- >> i'm sorry. good, that's fine. first of all, you wouldn't be allowed into the white house or the secret service would take you down. bill o'reilly is such a humble man. the idea he can stand alpha to alpha with the president of the united states and ask the really tough questions. bill really is at the top of his game. he ain't got much time left, but he's at the top of the game. all right. he and i -- he's slightly older than ...