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Okay. there is a separate guild that made the hands, made the cases. massive bureaucracy. and in 1890s they were making in london the same watches they were making in 1820, and that's just one example of capitalism. there's a million examples out there. socialism doesn't work, big government doesn't work. mark: and yet, when we come back, i want to discuss that with you. because this debate over democratic socialism seems to be going hot and heavy, in one party, and the power of government in terms of commerce seems to be accepted by both parties, or at least people in both parties. we'll disc...

Lots of fun, and they help people, and i danced on their telethon. danced hasidic and it became quite a deal. anyway, that's my story. mark: it's very fascinating and explains why you go to israel, why you do what you do, and when we come back, jon voight, i want to ask you another question. you used to be a liberal. >> where did you find that out? mark: i found that out. and then you became a conservative. i want to know how you became one and then became another. ladies and gentlemen, don't forget each week you can watch me on levin tv most of the week, go to crtv.com/mark and sign up and ...

People, and i danced on their telethon. danced hasidic and it became quite a deal. anyway, that's my story. mark: it's very fascinating and explains why you go to israel, why you do what you do, and when we come back, jon voight, i want to ask you another question. you used to be a liberal. >> where did you find that out? mark: i found that out. and then you became a conservative. i want to know how you became one and then became another. ladies and gentlemen, don't forget each week you can watch me on levin tv most of the week, go to crtv.com/mark and sign up and join us, crtv.com/mark or g...

People, and i danced on their telethon. danced hasidic and it became quite a deal. anyway, that's my story. mark: it's very fascinating and explains why you go to israel, why you do what you do, and when we come back, jon voight, i want to ask you another question. you used to be a liberal. >> where did you find that out? mark: i found that out. and then you became a conservative. i want to know how you became one and then became another. ladies and gentlemen, don't forget each week you can watch me on levin tv most of the week, go to crtv.com/mark and sign up and join us, crtv.com/mark or g...

Okay. there is a separate guild that made the hands, made the cases. massive bureaucracy. and in 1890s they were making in london the same watches they were making in 1820, and that's just one example of capitalism. there's a million examples out there. socialism doesn't work, big government doesn't work. mark: and yet, when we come back, i want to discuss that with you. because this debate over democratic socialism seems to be going hot and heavy, in one party, and the power of government in terms of commerce seems to be accepted by both parties, or at least people in both parties. we'll disc...