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Appointment to get an appointment to waiting 90 days or longer, and they are trying to get them care now, but it is not going to solve the overall problem of how medical can care is delivered to the veterans. that is going to take a complete change in the way we do that. >> and dana, do you anticipate that the legislation will pass? >> well, it is hard to anticipate anything is going to pass even if it is motherhood and apple pie, because there are a number of reforms that everybody agrees on, and some use of outside providers is already contemplated and veterans have died waiting for that the...

This is the first time i ever had a conversation with the president lasting more than two minutes or televised exchanges. i have never really had a conversation with him on the issues before. i'm excited that we had the conversation. we had a very frank exchange. >> i think he actually would like to sol tv problems of the councilmember and it would be to his benefit and certainly -- problems of the country and it would be to his benefit and every american's benefit to do that. time to start leading. the way to doing do that is quit poking fingers in people's eyes and build relationships. he ha...

They will block everything. >> some americans. >> until november. that is how it is for right now, we are in a holding pattern. >> christine, the issue -- >> not all, but some americans. >> majority. >> and i heard eric schmidt from google did not say it, but the president has said it, and we, and looking at roland and bay are going to keep on going on this one, but we, in the media, may be encouraging this business about not allowing things to be tried, not allowing innovation to take place and take root because some innovation will fail and much of it will fail and many of the long-term prob...

Might make governing more efficient. he said a 2011 golf match with speaker boehner didn't sol tv problems that year. and inviting them to annual picnic doesn't help either. >> it doesn't prevent them going on the floor of the house and blasting me for being big spending socialist. >> the president excused the senate vote raising the debt ceiling noting there was no danger that it would fail then but he called the need to raise the debt creeling a failure of leadership. that shifted the burden on to the backs of our children and grand chirp. grandchildren. >> bret: thank you. the president is ...