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Sometimes. if you're always comfortable with the story that you're telling and the way you're telling it, maybe you're not doing it right. and you know, roger ailes -- >> i think he was right about that. >> i do too. and the funny thing about roger is that he was -- let's be clear. he was not a journalist. he was a tv wizard. but that advice did stick with me. and you see in the book amanda, the character, is uncomfortable often. and what that teaches her is she sort of has to be open-minded. why is she uncomfortable with some subject matter? and so that was good advice, actually, from roger a...

But the really weird thing is he's winning right now. the fact that i viscerally see him and think he's a little strange, i'm in the minority mongs a lot of republican voters right now. >> it is resinating. jeff, let's talk about jeb bush. if you take a look at the new york magazine today. to save campaign, jeb bush hires tv wizard who trains fox news anchors. who is john kraushar? >> he's a consultant who works political candidates and some television personalities as well. he has a relationship with the bush family. he worked for his family, for dan quail. he also worked with paul ryan when ...