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Would be a stretch very far for the ukrainians to do because they really don't have the assets to do air drops, to resupply forces in very tight area within mariupol itself. >> let me ask you about the black sea and you talked about the russians kind of cutting off the sea access there. there's a senior u.s. defense official who says the russian vs t have the capabilities to launch an amphibious assault on ma mariupol. could they take out those ships. it was about here near snake island.

Period of time call the parents and the families because i have done that traditionally. i felt very, very badly about that. i always feel badly. tvs t it's the toughest -- toughest calls i have to make are the calls where this happens. soldiers are killed. it's a very difficult thing. now, it gets to a point where, you know, you make four or five of them, and one day is a very, very tough day. for me, that's by far the toughest. so the traditional way, if you look at president obama and other presidents, most of them didn't make calls. a lot of them didn't make calls. i like to call when it's...