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Trump effort to basically overthrow the u.s. government last year. persuading his followers to believe the big lie, that the 2020 election was somehow stolen even though there was never ever any evidence to support that. snider says in his new afterward quote, the big lie, a term that originates with hitler, became central to american political discourse after i applied to trump's claim to have won an election that he lost. the concept of the big lie which i reintroduced discussion in 2019 and 2020, helped millions of people see how mendacity of a certain scale of facts politics overtime. maki...

Scale affects politics overtime. can you just tell us what you mean? >> well that's the public relations advice is from hitler. hiller says if you tell a lie that's of a certain scale, that's big enough, people won't believe that you could deceive them on that scale. and since they believe and they taken first, they don't want to disbelieve later on. it becomes part of their life, becomes will we now call in article and of reality because it shows politics. then because substantially just alina marie but in policy. you act as if it's true, and then you move on to do things as though it were tr...