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Our emotions, i think it's on that frontier that he flails the most miserably as the president. >> the fact that it wasn't thanking the firefighters or i'm so sad for the victims, that is telling. >> it's who he is, though. i've made this argument many times. he is probably our most transparent president. because he cannot fake it. and so you always ultimately see who he is. and you saw it in this case. he is a man who really can't think beyond himself and consider what others are going through and be any kind of emotional consolation for them whatsoever. >> and you've got to wonder with the a...

Name. >> you have the image of ivanka yanking it away and saying here's how to do it, dad. >> when he gets in front of a microphone or in front of microphones, then we'll know exactly how he feels if he's not on teleprompter. doug brinkley, hello to you. i want to bring you in now. the former president barack obama sent out a tweet sag that he and michelle obama were heartbroken over what's going on in california, said he was grateful to the heroism of the firefighters. that is what's needed now. right? >> well, absolutely. and barack obama was great at empathy. we have with donald trump an em...