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Melania trump but also president trump himself they don't want to feel as though they're being controlled by anyone else and they want to be able to be the person that's sending the messages, making the big decisions in the white house. we call president trump, president trump, but we could call him chief of staff trump or press secretary trump because he fills all those different roles. you're seeing now that melania trump is also in some ways doing the same thing, saying i know who deserves to be promoted, i don't need to a chief of staff to tell me who needs to be promoted. it's interesting...

Baiting that trump engages in, and the kind of, you know, routine serial lying that he engages in, bleeds down into his administration. and so you have a nice churchgoing man like mike pence who's comfortable sitting there lying. >> what we're seeing there also is a continuation of a pattern where trump will say something without basis and fact, and the rest of the administration, rest of the white house scrambles to try to make it so. the lie comes first then they try to justify it. we've seen that with small things like sarah sanders at the podium and bigger things when donald trump -- >> th...

His tweet storms are irresponsible and reckless. he didn't mind getting very wealthy with other people's money. he doesn't want to be accountable for any of this. this is a real like. he's got a lot of friends on this board. they create cult around a leader like this. sure he's visionary. >> his shareholders see it was completely fraudulent what he did. he goes on a pod cast and he's spoking weed. his stock is soaring. what does that say to us? he's got some of the most well respected investors out there who stand with this guy and a

Trump's cabinet since day one. do you think his job is in danger? >> well, you never know. i sure hope jim mattis, who i have the highest regard for, respect for and admiration, i hope for the sake of the country that he stays in that position, but, you know, with the president we have, one never knows. i hope he's not in jeopardy, i hope he stays in that position. you know, one more thought, don, getting back to bob woodward's book, this comes in sequence with the previous books. and on -- you don't really have to read the books, you can read the tweet storms. and one would hope that -- i gue...

Do you think his job is in danger? >> well, you never know. i sure hope jim mattis, who i have the highest regard for, respect for and admiration, i hope for the sake of the country that he stays in that position, but, you know, with the her curial president we have, one never knows. i hope he's not in jeopardy, i hope he stays in that position. you know, one more thought, john, getting back to bob woodward's book, this comes in sequence with the previous books. and on -- you don't really have to read the books, you can read the tweet storms, and one would hope that -- i guess i'm being very n...