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Of this president by -- >> hold on. hold on. they can't tadidn't take the no procedures with these calls. our reporting is that they didn't even have a transcript made of one of the phone calls, his conversations with mbs and the saudi king. >> we don't actually know that. when we look at the -- there are claims that the ukraine phone call with the president was put into this secret computer server and that that was out of process. all of that is speculation. and when you are going to the "post" for where you are taking your talking points and information from, i think that is jumping to concl...

Department officials, one is kurt volker. they wanted to hear from these officials in terms of what they knew about the state department's handling of the ukraine controversy. now, kurt volker is going to be appearing next thursday at this deposition, a source familiar with this discussion tells me. and what is important here though is because they are going so speedily with this process, he is going to be appearing next week just days after he quit, but it is remarkable because it is before there are -- sorry, it is before there are documents that have to be provided to the committee from the...

>> jenna? >> no, i mean this is -- you have the full mueller report. the white house has been fully transparent. everything that mueller wanted mueller got. and so again, characterizing this -- i mean, you are flip-flopping here, ana, by saying that -- >> he wouldn't sit down with him. >> no law requires that he has to. you're saying that he is hiding something and now we have all of this other stuff that now they are not hiding. so in your questions to me, you are asking why is the president hiding things and then asking the democratic opponent to say why do we have all of this evidence. you ...

But we have a reasonable suspicion that such an inquiry is warranted. so i think you have a lot of word sal had happening that is con fladingflating a lot of dif terms. but your viewers need to understand the process and what the terms in the constitution mean by the people who actually wrote them. >> great to have both of you with us. the president admits it. the whistleblower shows it. the transcript shows it. but the word for most republicans? nothing it see here. so will we see cracks in the gop? you're live in the "cnn newsroom."