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It's about appealing to a conservative base who thinks the government has gotten way to large, not only in washington, but denver. in denver we added 2,000 people to the core part of state government. they added 2,000 more to higher education. they were adding the jobs while the private sector is downsizing and government should be smaller and the private sector should be flourishing. attrition is one great way to do this. i think someone again finally took comments of saying i'm going to walk in and lay off 2,000 people on day one. i don't think i've used those words. it's about downsizing st...

Think it's excellent. tell me about the concept to create an incentive for people to compete head to head against each other to solve a problem. >> lindbergh crossed the atlantic in 1927 to win a $25,000 prize. wow, when you put up a very clear objective goal, whatever it might be, you attract great minds around the planet to solve your problem. and you only pay the winner. and better than that, you get 10 to 50 times the prize money spent by these teams to win and solve your problem. we want to reinvent philanthropy so it's efficient and highly leveraged. whether it's going to the moon, an x ...

Would i break in on network and say this is breaking news? no. >> but i would want to know -- i want to know how he's going start trying to put this back together. this is a story that falls into the interesting but not important category. >> mike barnicle, is mika brzezinski interested in anything that the rest of us find interesting? >> i am interested. >> it's such a crazy path. i don't understand what he's trying to recover from. get a divorce and go to the golf course. i think he should go win a golf tournament. >> that's what i said. if you have a sex addiction, go with that. >> is that ...