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Transcripts For MSNBC Dateline 20240706

heidy wagner and conrad truman had a powerful connection. a deep love envied by others. then one fateful night, the young couple was jolted by unforeseen tragedy when heidy was killed by a single john gunshot to the head. in the aftermath, fingers were pointed. but where the aimed at an innocent man? here s josh mankiewicz with as night fell . they seem so in congress. the soaring majesty of utah s wasatch mountains and the story of a beautiful woman, struck down in her youth. it was a lot of things. tragic. crushing. stunning. but was it an accident? or a suicide? or a murder? police felt they knew. but as most cops who will tell you, both the evidence and the jury have their own stories to tell. and the answers are not always so clear. certainly, that is true for this story. and quite possibly for the woman at its heart. her name? heidy wagner. as a baby, she was favored. everybody loved her. she could do no wrong. autumn was one of heidy s four sisters. she was ju

Transcripts For MSNBCW Dateline 20240702

you just wonder how this could happen. it seems very surreal. a quiet night at home shattered by a gunshot. she came out of the shower and i heard a pop. and there s blood. a young life dying on the floor. she wasn t talking at all. i m asking, what happened here? i was utterly confuse. so many different stories about what might have happened. he said many things that night. maybe someone shot something at the house. at one point he said it was 80% suicide. police had their own theory. i thought, oh, man, there s something going on here. we don t see a lot of women commit suicide naked. his stories weren t adding up. but something else was it adding up either. a key piece of evidence. we went to the house and we walked in and we think, ha. would in the stake in measurement send an innocent man to prison? or free a guilty one? we thought it was over. we thought this was settled. one suspect, so many stories, only one of them could be true.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:35:00

that strong, funny, you know, person, also had some things inside that were very painful. according to sandi, those things had to do with heidy s upbringing. most significantly, heidy grew up not knowing the identity of her father. that really bothered her. you know? she did not know her dad. and she had always wanted that. it bugged her. tremendously. enough to take her own life? had she ever attempted suicide before? never to my knowledge. she never talked about? it no. it s very hard to believe what was going on in s life at the time. would seem like a pretty happy marriage to you. she s going to do spur of the moment to decide commits with

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:03:00

[laughs] crazy things you would expect a couple of girls to want to do. seemed heidy to thrive in a workplace that favored hard hats over heels. it was dangerous if you didn t follow the rules. in fact, quote from heidy, everything is dangerous. it s just what will kill you the quickest. two sandi sanchez, it heidy came more than just a coworker. i considered her my best friend. she was a person that you knew would never stab you in the back. she was a person you knew would always have your. back in person, she could be both. sweet and salty. and that caught the attention of one of her colleagues, 25 -year-old, conrad truman. i noticed her first in the hallway. what did you think? i thought she was cute. and i noticed her hard hat and they had a little personality stickers. and her said, it s all about me, deal with it. i was kind of thinking, this girl is kind of a feisty girl. soon, conrad asked heidy out on a date. i m not that type usually. i don t get super ser

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 09:02:00

autumn was one of heidy s four sisters. she was just special. she would walk into the room and she was ready for that good time. heidy grew up with no fewer than seven older siblings. tell me about her growing up? she was a fun loving girl. she was rather shy, though. so heidy seemed like an appropriate name. heidy s mom, janet. the family was boisterous. she s kind of get embarrassed easily. she tied her face. [laughs] as heidy gold or, she was still cute and bubbly. but make no mistake, heidy was no pushover. she was kind of intimidating, actually. for being so small you wouldn t think so. at just 20, heidy started working in the not entirely feminine gas and chemical industry just outside salt lake city. sandi sanchez was one of heidy s coworkers. we worked with hazardous chemicals and gases.

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