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Displaced persons in camps, this becomes very fertile recruiting ground for isis to regroup. what the generals have been saying for the last several months is you are going to have gore ril la attacks, suicide bombers and isis migrating into north africa where it's been operating for some time and in recent years up in afghanistan. so this is going to be the challenge that the u.s. faces. can isis stage a 9/11 type attack on u.s. soil? hopefully not. but they can destabilize an awful lot of territory. >> and john, you heard what mike pom said that in some places they're stronger and then you h...

Cavanaugh will back me up, we often see these incidents occur in pairs or threes. and there is a saying that the second attack is always an american if it is an international type attack. but people like to -- terrorists and people who aspire to create a high visibility incident, they want that visibility. they want to actually be there and in the face of the community. terrorism itself, i don't care whether takes hait is a hate cr not, when you create a hostage barricade, you are committingen an act of terrorism. you want the nation to have all eyes on you for whatever your personal or politi...

All levels of government. much greater cooperation with friends, allies and countries that have to cooperate with us for their own selfish reasons. but at the same time we have to keep in mind al qaeda, isis and others still want to kill us every day of the week. that's why it's so important we not be politically correct, we do what we have to do. constantly monitor what islamist terrorists are trying to do. we've adapted and probably guaranteed there will never be another 9/11. on the other hand they're trying different types of attacks and be on our guard and staying ahead of them. if it req...

Having said that the enemy won't stop. so we have to try to stay ahead of them all the time. so every day 24/7, 52 weeks a year all these intelligence agencies, all of the overseas friends, allies we have, try to head off the next attack. but we don't know when it will happen. we have many officers since back 9/11 several people operating out of a cave in afghanistan. we have isis, al shabaab all these various agencies. we have the internet. all of this is still an ongoing challenge. the threat is still there. the good news is much more coordination and a 9/11 type attack we heard is very diff...

Thing one afternoon at lunch, they do it every day. >> they are ringing the warning belling, david gregory. you heard dni coats talk about how this is a 9/11 type attack could help. >> the presidency of george w. bush. there was help fork work counting iran's nuclear program. it is not inconceivable they would like to work with russia where they can. the question they raid about