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Case of the devil that you know type situation and of course, rishi sunak also did some damage and he is portrayed by those who are loyal to borisjohnson as having betrayed him, stabbed him in the back by resigning in their eyes, bringing down his leadership and others say thatis down his leadership and others say that is not the case, he said so himself but that is not what happened but there's clearly some very deep fault lines in the party that i am not sure have been healed not sure if they can be healed through a fresh leadership election although shorter will no doubt include bitter brie...

Aggressive fashion. just in your conversations, what do you think happened? everyone is perplexed by this. everyone thought putin was -- yes, he may be a nasty guy, but it was a pattern of carefulness. and he seems to have become very reckless. what do you think has happened? >> if we go years back, we see -- or at least i have seen some kind of development in his thinking. he's frustrated, because of the situation in ukraine after 2014. and then progressively, i have felt that his frustration is growing. very obviously, he just decided to get this thing somehow, or at least try to solve it.

That position, and he's another super hardliner. >> yes. i think when he dies, what is likely to happen is a raul castro type situation. a weak leader who replaces a powerful leader. my hope is that iran evolves into denmark, but i've learned not to conflate hope and analysis. what can happen after that is an iranian putin type figure, someone from the security or military establishment, who throws out shiite nationalism and replaces it with iranian nationalism. i hope i'm wrong about that. >> one of the reasons that's likely is the thing that one has to realize is, and there's no good answer ...

Think that every possible deed looking for peace is important. that's why i strongly support president macron and olaf shotz, keeping the idea open to discuss with the kremlin. also, i have to admit that at the moment, i don't see so very much possibilities to reach the peace. >> given your long relationship with vladamir putin, would you be willing to reach out and meet with him and try to see if there is a deal to be had? >> hmm, well, i haven't had any contact with him, but if the situation would be such that we find the possibility of getting something positive done, i would. surely after ...

>> tell us what you think putin is going to do now. you have met him so many times. he does appear to be cornered in some ways. he does appear to be -- becoming more reckless with these nuclear threats. tell us what your analysis of his state of mind is. >> i see he is actually in poker terms, he has put all in, and he is a fighter. so it is very difficult to see him accepting any kind of defeat. that surely makes the situation very crucial. >> you said -- i remember in early february, before the russian invasion, that something you sensed had changed about putin, that he used to be very caref...