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I think he has to understand that in america, we see young black men go to jail for far less, serve far more time for similar type situations. it's really an intellectual insult for him to say that to people when we all know if things were reversed and trayvon -- 28-year-old trayvon had killed 17-year-old white george zimmerman, he would have been locked up that day, no bond, and good luck. >> so you think the exact opposite from what o'mara said? >> of course. i mean, and no one can deny -- anyone who denies that is being intellectually dishonest. >> the naacp, as you know, is calling for the...

Remain calm. but also not to build on trayvon's name, as to what his name will mean in american history. >> i know you were in the courtroom when the verdict was read. trayvon's parents were not there, do you know why they decided they didn't want to be there at that moment? >> well, based on our advice, number one, we already this decided that they probably shouldn't be in the courtroom. anderson, this is a very tough issue for them. and for them to have been through all of this for the last four weeks, we decided it was better to allow them to go ahead and head home to miami since it was so ...

I think he has to understand that in america, we see young black men go to jail for far less or far more time for similar type situations. so it's really an intellectual insult for him to say that to people when we all know if things were reversed and 28-year-old trayvon had killed 17-year-old white george zimmerman, he would have been locked up that day, no bond, and good luck. >> so you think the exact opposite is true from what o'mara said? >> of course. i mean -- and no one can deny -- anyone who denies that is being intellectually dishonest. >> the naacp is calling for the justice departm...

About race, really from the beginning of this. and george zimmerman's attorney, mark o'mara, said something after the verdict. >> i think things would have been different if george zimmerman was black for this reason. he never would have been charged with a crime. >> what did you think when you heard that? >> well, i don't accept that. and maybe me and mr. o'mara are different on that issue. i think he has to understand in america we see young black men go to jail for far less, serve far more time for similar type situations. so it is really an intellectual insult for him to say that to people...

government. it does not belong in our government. >> now, herman cain back in march responding to a question about whether he'd appoint a muslim to his cabinet or to the federal bench, the answer he said was, no. he subsequently walked that back saying he's open to appointing anyone as long as they pledged their loyalty to america. as far as his claims about sharia law, in a presidential debate in june, he says sharia law has influenced court decisions in oklahoma and new jersey. in new jersey, there was one incident in 2009. one single incident, domestic violence case. a judge refus...