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Super high level of fussiness, which i find a major turnoff. and two, they all looked pretty easy to push over, so you can't tell me it's that good for you if they all look like they fall over in the wind. >> we are certainly a passionate group of vegans but not all vegans are that skinny. in fact the only u.s. mail weight lifter who qualified for the olympics in rio is a vegan. there are amazing vegan body builders and athletes. a legendary ultra runner, vegan. so vegans can be very healthy as well. >> tucker: interesting. you make a compelling case. so get to the fussiness point. i've never ...

So i asked to run a marathon with me because i knew he wouldn't say no. >> why is it so scary for you, tom? >> because i was over 50. i used to marathon when i was young, but i was in my 20s. it is really hard. i honestly didn't know if i had one in me he said, sure, i will take a swing at it. >> how many marathons have you run that day? official marathons? i think 13. 12 or 13. i have done three ultra marathons, over 50 miles. >> you are an ultra runner. >> i know ultra runners. i hang out with them sometimes. >> i ran three miles this morning. >> hey, that's good. >> thanks. so the book, wha...