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Same thing at fox or somewhere else. but as you know, this business is difficult. it's hard. >> i sort of bought into his argument which is look, i don't really want to leave nbc. my nice life. and they've offered me 10:00. okay. my staff keep their jobs, i keep mine, everyone's happy. i'm going to play a clip my interview with bill maher recently about jay leno. >> what do you make of jay leno jay leno bowing out? >> i like jay leno. i'm unabashedly a fan. >> why does he get such a hard rap from other comedians? jealousy? >> a lot of it is that. >> i've found him incredibly nice, charming. >>...

I think you're safe. >> make a great cohost. >> oh, jay, please. >> i can't see him relaxing. >> he's 63. larry king went to -- he was 115 before they replaced him. he's 63. we're going to see him turn up. maybe not right away, but i wouldn't be surprised if he turned up on fox. >> any guy that could pull those ratings doesn't matter how old he is. a big check to come on again. >> of course. >> gentlemen, we could talk all night about jay leno. it's a very sad, poignant day. he's already taped the last one ever after 22 years. a special night and a special guy. thank you for joining me and pay...

I've done some of the tonight shows with johnny carson. the thing there was you could never talk to the host. never see the host. with jay he'd come around, knock on your door, come in, tell jokes. >> right. >> i would do little sketches. and one time the show was on. there was a commercial break. he knocked on my door, came in, the show was on. hey, man, that was great. so i am going to miss him. it was like having a funny uncle who'd come over and make funny noises and find a quarter behind your ear. then when your parents were out of the room he'd say hey you want to hear a joke? oh, uncle ...

You're sat riirizing it. >> let's just end with what jay will do next. what do you think about? >> i think the day after his show goes off he's flying to florida to do one nighters. >> of course. >> so that's great. i'm not going to lay awake tonight worrying about jay. although he did send out an e-mail saying could you contribute a few bucks to jay leno's retirement plan? i said jay -- the one thing about jay, i know a lot of people who have had sicknesses in their family. jay will get on the phone and call them. i know a writer, teshon shannon, jason their birthday would call them in texas ...

>> i met him in college then "saturday night live" he hosted it. i met him in '85-'86 again. i said that was the guy that interviewed you. that was you? i can't believe it. a lot of comedians, you should be a standup and all this. i said, jay, do you think i should be a standup? he goes do it. john, write joke, tell joke, get check. that's it. and he had that ability. and he's right. to boil it down to simplicity, he's not neurotic and he works hard. and he really enjoys it. >> spike, i want to play a clip from seinfeld that you i think helped write this one. let's watch this. >> i didn't get ...