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MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber December 25, 2019 23:21:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber December 25, 2019 23:21:00

Long beach was in the dark. no one seriously believed what the police now firmly believed that fred schockner ordered and paid for his own wife's murder. as charlie's uncle mark said -- >> never in my wildest dreams, even after she was killed, because the circumstances, nothing pointed at fred. and the police did not point at fred. >> reporter: but, said detective richard birdsall, they had their reasons. >> we used them in a lot of respects. and you felt guilty because they're beating their chests. and they're upset. and they had no idea that the father of charlie is the one that set the whol...

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber December 25, 2019 23:59:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber December 25, 2019 23:59:00

Morning. >> damn straight. a reason to live. >> mark and susan are now his mom and dad. he has taken their last name. and charlie has more than survived. he is thriving. >> i'm going somewhere, and i'm going fast. >> he got his master's and landed his dream job in theme park design. and he has learned in spite of everything that rarest of lessons, to accept and move on. >> i mean, i know what happened, and i know it's influencing me. but it's not defining me. >> but there is one thing that defines him. his mother's character. and that follows him everywhere. >> my mother was just ethereal. she...

MSNBC MTP Daily December 25, 2019 22:15:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC MTP Daily December 25, 2019 22:15:00

Crashing down. >> reporter: his home was a crime scene. >> the house was taped off. and just people going in and out of the house. a lot of neighbors around. like everything you see on tv. >> reporter: you never think it's gonna be you. >> oh, no. no. no. no. it's surreal. very much so. >> reporter: what does that loss feel like? >> yeah. i -- i can't put it into words. it was tremendous. it was awful. i immediately called mark and i'm babbling on the phone. i can't even speak. >> mark is charlie's uncle, lynn's brother. >> after the initial shock, there's disbelief. i didn't burst into tears ...

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber December 25, 2019 23:58:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber December 25, 2019 23:58:00

Ever received. from the man who i still hate more than any person i've ever known. and my wife and i didn't have children of our own. now i've got the best son in the world. >> it's been great. mark and susan are just -- they're great. i love them so much. >> and so in a sad strange way out of unimaginable evil and loss came love. a real family. an unexpected blessing. >> what's he done for you personally? having him in your life. >> it's like getting another life. like somebody opened a door and say here's a second chance. >> a reason to get up in the

MSNBC MTP Daily December 25, 2019 22:55:00 - Vimarsana News

MSNBC MTP Daily December 25, 2019 22:55:00

Do with this? >> reporter: charlie remembers what they told him. >> the detective was very quick to assure me that they have no suspicions of that. they don't think that would be something that was happening. and if they had thought that, that they would already have looked into it and not to worry about that. >> reporter: is that what detectives really believed? well, no. >> we had to sit there and look at him in the eye and say, "well, we'll catch everybody who was involved." >> reporter: but not say, "we suspect him." >> exactly. >> reporter: they believed, they simply couldn't tell charlie...