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Huntsman, newt gingrich and rick santorum, all polling just over 10% for a statistical tie. >> and buddy roemer, beating rick perry. >> there you go. what are you saying there? >> i'm saying go tigerers. you know, mike barnicle, if you look at the numbers, you see that if mitt romney is in the 30s, that's fine. if he's at 40, he just keeps going down one or two points a day. i will say this -- i think it does matter. that he somedays above 30, i think 29, 28 is a nightmare. you're starting to see people going to candidates, we went to an event last night. it seemed like the first real presiden...

A decline of median income in america by 10% and people looking at very difficult prospects going forward, they can choose president obama. >> boy, you know -- >> all right. >> he's actually willie, geist -- i've got to say this the money quote here was, as he was trying to explain his first money quote, i like firing people, if people think that i sit around folks and i know how things are going to affect people -- i mean -- can somebody please tell me who in his campaign said he needed to start channeling rick perry? i don't think it's a good idea. >> i'm not sure that was helpful and that's...

Anybody. unless you have a big check. is that the kind of country we're in? >> well, you didn't answer the question, though. how can you change the dynamic to break through? and if not, when do you give up? >> the reason i didn't answer is i'm not sure. i mean it's as honest as i can be. >> boy, he sure looks like an america's elect candidate. if he doesn't break through here, third party, 50 states this message, i think you could ring out, willie. governor of all of these candidates. >> you say they're offensive and corrupt. which is the least offensive candidate. in other words, in other wor...

And if i were mitt, i would think i would want to be on. and a lot of people would watch, and you know, it's a chance to make a statement. >> so we're looking at your -- >> yeah, it's tough. >> and the thing is, willie pointed out you've got quite a family portrait. not exactly the type of family portrait that willie and i can pull off, but you do it very well with a lion and a beautiful wife, and what city is that behind your gold -- >> that's a beautiful city known as new york city. >> new york city. that is some -- that is quite a shot. >> that is quite a picture. >> willie, is your christm...

Yesterday and he said he's very busy, he's so busy. and i was a little bit surprised at that. >> do you like mitt romney? is mitt a good guy? >> i think he's a very nice guy, actually. i've known him for a while and i've gotten to know him pretty well lately and frankly i was surprised because he wants my endorsement. he wants it very badly, and that doesn't necessarily affect it one way or the other, but he really wants my endorsement. he came up to trump tower, as you know, you covered it very well. and i'm a little bit surprised he turned down the debate. i would say that if you're down in ...